[libcamera-devel] [PATCH v3 05/16] libcamera: ipu3: Report sensor timestamp

Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinchart at ideasonboard.com
Mon Apr 26 06:30:05 CEST 2021


Hi Niklas and Jacopo,

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 08:55:01AM +0200, Niklas Söderlund wrote:
> On 2021-04-22 08:25:03 +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:37:18PM +0200, Niklas Söderlund wrote:
> > > On 2021-04-21 18:03:08 +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> > > > Report the sensor's timestamp in the Request metadata by using the
> > > > CIO2 buffer timestamp as an initial approximation.
> > > >
> > > > The buffer's timestamp is recorded at DMA-transfer time, and it does not
> > > > theoretically matches the 'start of exposure' definition, but when used
> > > > to compare two consecutive frames it gives an acceptable estimation of
> > > > the sensor frame period duration.
> > > >
> > > > Reviewed-by: Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham at ideasonboard.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Hirokazu Honda <hiroh at chromium.org>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart at ideasonboard.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo at jmondi.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  src/libcamera/pipeline/ipu3/ipu3.cpp | 9 +++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/src/libcamera/pipeline/ipu3/ipu3.cpp b/src/libcamera/pipeline/ipu3/ipu3.cpp
> > > > index 51446fcf5bc1..28e849a43a3e 100644
> > > > --- a/src/libcamera/pipeline/ipu3/ipu3.cpp
> > > > +++ b/src/libcamera/pipeline/ipu3/ipu3.cpp
> > > > @@ -1255,6 +1255,15 @@ void IPU3CameraData::cio2BufferReady(FrameBuffer *buffer)
> > > >
> > > >  	Request *request = info->request;
> > > >
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * Record the sensor's timestamp in the request metadata.
> > > > +	 *
> > > > +	 * \todo The sensor timestamp should be better estimated by connecting
> > > > +	 * to the V4L2Device::frameStart signal.
> > > > +	 */
> > >
> > > I'm OK with this patch as is, but just in case you missed it. The signal
> > > is already wired to CIO2Device::frameStart() is and used to feed the
> > > DelayedControls state machine. So all the building blocks for this todo
> > > I think is already in place,
> > >
> > >     void PipelineHandlerIPU3::stamp(uint32_t sequence)
> > >     {
> > >         IPU3Frames::Info *info = frameInfos_.find(buffer);
> > >
> > >         ...
> > >
> > >         info->request->metadata().set(controls::SensorTimestamp, ...);
> > >     }
> > >
> > >     int PipelineHandlerIPU3::registerCameras()
> > >     {
> > >         ....
> > >
> > >         data->cio2_.frameStart().connect(this, &PipelineHandlerIPU3::stamp);
> > >
> > >         ....
> > >     }
> > 
> > I've seen that, but plumbing in the infrastructure for timestamping in
> > the library was considered not necessary at this time
> > 
> > > That being said I think we might get better values using the buffer
> > > timestamp as done in this patch, if nothing else less jitter. Only draw
> > > back I can think of is that we can't grantee the timestamp coming from
> > > the kernel relates to BOOTTIME.
> > 
> > I keep hitting walls all over the places....
> > Timestamping is performed in the cio2 receiver driver with:
> > 
> >                 ns = ktime_get_ns()
> > 
> > ktime_get() documentation reads as:
> > 
> >         /*
> >         * ktime_get() family: read the current time in a multitude of ways,
> >         *
> >         * The default time reference is CLOCK_MONOTONIC, starting at
> >         * boot time but not counting the time spent in suspend.
> >         * For other references, use the functions with "real", "clocktai",
> >         * "boottime" and "raw" suffixes.
> >         *
> >         * To get the time in a different format, use the ones wit
> >         * "ns", "ts64" and "seconds" suffix.
> >         *
> >         * See Documentation/core-api/timekeeping.rst for more details.
> >         */
> > 
> > I recall I repeated multiple times the reference clock was BOOTTIME,
> > not sure because I overlooked it or because at the time (last week...)
> > I had no real understanding of the differences between MONOTONIC and
> > BOOTTIME...
> > 
> > Should we change the definition of the control again to support
> > multiple time sources, and add one property to report which reference
> > is used ?

I'd rather standardize on BOOTTIME and fix it on the kernel side. The
existing implementation won't match the documentation, and that's a
system bug :-)

> I'm a bit slow and I still don't understand the need for users to know 
> what the reference clock is used :-) Is it not enough that it have a ts 
> it can diff between two exposers and get a usable delta in a known time 
> unit? And of course that it's not subjected to the "fun" of NTP clock 
> adjusting mechanisms.

If you only consider one camera, sure, but if you consider
synchronization with audio, as well as with other sensors
(accelerometers for instance), knowing the exact clock source is
important.

> I don't want to distract for the real work in this patch and as I said 
> I'm fine with the patch as is, only wanted to point out that the todo 
> was ready to be acted on. And that IMHO I think we would gain more from 
> the solution without the todo addressed, or of course change the SOE 
> signal API to include a ts from the kernel set at the IRQ. My fear being 
> that if we produce the ts in user-space it will be subjected to jitter 
> that will be worse then using the buffer ts as done here.
> 
> > > > +	request->metadata().set(controls::SensorTimestamp,
> > > > +				buffer->metadata().timestamp);
> > > > +
> > > >  	/* If the buffer is cancelled force a complete of the whole request. */
> > > >  	if (buffer->metadata().status == FrameMetadata::FrameCancelled) {
> > > >  		for (auto it : request->buffers())

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


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