[libcamera-devel] [PATCH 2/3] libcamera: colorspace: Add a default colorspace

David Plowman david.plowman at raspberrypi.com
Tue Jul 26 12:12:32 CEST 2022


Hi Umang, everyone

Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I can add some more thoughts about this question.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 12:15, Umang Jain <umang.jain at ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> On 7/25/22 16:16, David Plowman wrote:
> > Hi Umang
> >
> > Thanks for this patch. I was wondering if I could ask for a little
> > more information on how it would be used.
>
>
> Yes, so the idea here is to provide a colorspace where one(or more)
> identifiers are specified by the user whereas others can be left upto
> the driver to fill in.
>
> I wasn't aware of this use case until very recently. In gstreamer, it
> seems possible that the user wants to use(enforce?) a particular
> transfer function whereas other identifier are left upto the driver to fill.
>
> I am not very sure how would this be helpful (since colorspace
> identifiers depend on each other I think), and mis-matches between them
> might not make any sense at all.
>
> But such a use case as has been identified it seems, atleast in the
> gstreamer case - so to satisfy that, I went ahead with this approach. I
> couldn't get a better solution where the user specifies a set of
> identifiers to use for colorspace, at the same time depending on the
> driver to fill unknown or default values for remaining identifier(s).
>
> >
> > In the original libcamera ColorSpace implementation I was very keen to
> > avoid "unknown" or "default" values inside ColorSpaces. I was taking
> > the view that applications really should say what ColorSpace they
> > want, but at the same time I knew there will always be (bad)
> > applications that don't think about colour spaces and so I let them
> > use std::optional to allow the ColorSpace to be completely
> > unspecified.
>
>
> Right, so when colorspace is completely unspecified, all values are
> default-ed (V4L2Device::fromColorSpace()) in the v4l2_format.
>
> If I am asked about what's the goal of this patch, I would say that it
> enables the use case where a sub-set of colorspace identifiers are
> known, while others need to use defaults. Currently there is no default
> std::optional<libcamera::ColorSpace> hence I added one, to facilitate
> the application layer. The application should ideally copy the
> libcamera::ColorSpace::Default as base, swap the identifiers it wants to
> use in the copy, and send the custom colorspace for validation.
>
> Also note, the mapping is only one way (from libcamera to V4L2)
> intentionally. It shouldn't https://github.com/raspberrypi/picamera2#installationbe the case where driver itself returns
> "::Default" back to user.
>
> >
> > In V4L2, my understanding is that "_DEFAULT" normally means that you
> > infer the value from the overall V4L2_COLORSPACE (someone please
> > correct me if that's wrong!). In libcamera we don't have an "overall
>
>
> If we could infer all the identifier values from
> V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT, there shouldn't ideally be:
>
> V4L2_XFER_FUNC_DEFAULT, V4L2_YCBCR_ENC_DEFAULT,
> V4L2_QUANTIZATION_DEFAULT defaults, atleast to my understanding.
>
> > colour space" in this way, so what would it then mean? For example, is
> > "ColorSpace::Range::Default" ever the same as
> > "ColorSpace::Range::Full", or is it always different? How do we (can
> > we even) document what it means?
>
>
> Maybe we should look at V4L2 level first, before libcamera for e.g.
>
> Would V4L2_QUANTIZATION_DEFAULT be ever same as
> V4L2_QUANTIZATION_FULL_RANGE ?
>
> >
> > I'd be interested to hear what other folks think. Possibly I'm being a
>
>
> I am all ears here as well, so let' see
>
> > bit paranoid, but then I have been bitten by "wrong colour space"
> > problems often enough in the past (usually just before a product
> > ships!).
>
> ouch :-S

My overall feeling is that I don't like having "default" things
because I'm worried that they'll start appearing when you don't expect
them. And then how would you know what they meant? As you know by now,
I'm a bit paranoid about colour spaces going wrong...

However, I see the point about these values possibly being convenient
for negotiating colour spaces with (for example) gstreamer. But
perhaps we could reduce the risk of them spreading, maybe we might
consider:

* Documenting clearly that "default" values are only "inputs" (what
you want), and are never returned (what you got).
* Adding a valid() method that complains if a ColorSpace has any
undefined/default values in it?
* When a function returns a ColorSpace that has been set, can we make
them check that the returned value is "valid()"?
* I also wasn't quite sure why a ColorSpace::Default is needed, would
a ColorSpace be regarded as being "default" if every field is
"default", or just some of them? Or could an unset std::optional be
used instead?

What do you think?

Thanks!
David

>
> >
> > Thanks!
> > David
> >
> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 at 15:44, Umang Jain via libcamera-devel
> > <libcamera-devel at lists.libcamera.org> wrote:
> >> Add a Colorspace::Default which corresponds to default V4L2
> >> colorspace identifiers.
> >>
> >> \todo Add defaults to python colorspace bindings
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Umang Jain <umang.jain at ideasonboard.com>
> >> ---
> >>   include/libcamera/color_space.h |  5 +++++
> >>   src/libcamera/color_space.cpp   | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >>   src/libcamera/v4l2_device.cpp   |  5 +++++
> >>   3 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/include/libcamera/color_space.h b/include/libcamera/color_space.h
> >> index 086c56c1..0ad8da17 100644
> >> --- a/include/libcamera/color_space.h
> >> +++ b/include/libcamera/color_space.h
> >> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ class ColorSpace
> >>   {
> >>   public:
> >>          enum class Primaries {
> >> +               Default,
> >>                  Raw,
> >>                  Smpte170m,
> >>                  Rec709,
> >> @@ -23,12 +24,14 @@ public:
> >>          };
> >>
> >>          enum class TransferFunction {
> >> +               Default,
> >>                  Linear,
> >>                  Srgb,
> >>                  Rec709,
> >>          };
> >>
> >>          enum class YcbcrEncoding {
> >> +               Default,
> >>                  None,
> >>                  Rec601,
> >>                  Rec709,
> >> @@ -36,6 +39,7 @@ public:
> >>          };
> >>
> >>          enum class Range {
> >> +               Default,
> >>                  Full,
> >>                  Limited,
> >>          };
> >> @@ -45,6 +49,7 @@ public:
> >>          {
> >>          }
> >>
> >> +       static const ColorSpace Default;
> >>          static const ColorSpace Raw;
> >>          static const ColorSpace Jpeg;
> >>          static const ColorSpace Srgb;
> >> diff --git a/src/libcamera/color_space.cpp b/src/libcamera/color_space.cpp
> >> index 895e5c8e..d52f58cf 100644
> >> --- a/src/libcamera/color_space.cpp
> >> +++ b/src/libcamera/color_space.cpp
> >> @@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ namespace libcamera {
> >>    * \enum ColorSpace::Primaries
> >>    * \brief The color primaries for this color space
> >>    *
> >> + * \var ColorSpace::Primaries::Default
> >> + * \brief Use the default primaries as defined by the driver
> >> + *
> >>    * \var ColorSpace::Primaries::Raw
> >>    * \brief These are raw colors directly from a sensor, the primaries are
> >>    * unspecified
> >> @@ -68,6 +71,9 @@ namespace libcamera {
> >>    * \enum ColorSpace::TransferFunction
> >>    * \brief The transfer function used for this color space
> >>    *
> >> + * \var ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Default
> >> + * \brief Use the default transfer function as defined by the driver
> >> + *
> >>    * \var ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Linear
> >>    * \brief This color space uses a linear (identity) transfer function
> >>    *
> >> @@ -82,6 +88,9 @@ namespace libcamera {
> >>    * \enum ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding
> >>    * \brief The Y'CbCr encoding
> >>    *
> >> + * \var ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::Default
> >> + * \brief Use the default Y'CbCr encoding as defined by the driver
> >> + *
> >>    * \var ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::None
> >>    * \brief There is no defined Y'CbCr encoding (used for non-YUV formats)
> >>    *
> >> @@ -99,6 +108,9 @@ namespace libcamera {
> >>    * \enum ColorSpace::Range
> >>    * \brief The range (sometimes "quantisation") for this color space
> >>    *
> >> + * \var ColorSpace::Range::Default
> >> + * Use the default range as defined by the driver
> >> + *
> >>    * \var ColorSpace::Range::Full
> >>    * \brief This color space uses full range pixel values
> >>    *
> >> @@ -132,7 +144,8 @@ std::string ColorSpace::toString() const
> >>   {
> >>          /* Print out a brief name only for standard color spaces. */
> >>
> >> -       static const std::array<std::pair<ColorSpace, const char *>, 6> colorSpaceNames = { {
> >> +       static const std::array<std::pair<ColorSpace, const char *>, 7> colorSpaceNames = { {
> >> +               { ColorSpace::Default, "Default" },
> >>                  { ColorSpace::Raw, "RAW" },
> >>                  { ColorSpace::Jpeg, "JPEG" },
> >>                  { ColorSpace::Srgb, "sRGB" },
> >> @@ -150,23 +163,27 @@ std::string ColorSpace::toString() const
> >>          /* Assemble a name made of the constituent fields. */
> >>
> >>          static const std::map<Primaries, std::string> primariesNames = {
> >> +               { Primaries::Default, "Default" },
> >>                  { Primaries::Raw, "RAW" },
> >>                  { Primaries::Smpte170m, "SMPTE170M" },
> >>                  { Primaries::Rec709, "Rec709" },
> >>                  { Primaries::Rec2020, "Rec2020" },
> >>          };
> >>          static const std::map<TransferFunction, std::string> transferNames = {
> >> +               { TransferFunction::Default, "Default" },
> >>                  { TransferFunction::Linear, "Linear" },
> >>                  { TransferFunction::Srgb, "sRGB" },
> >>                  { TransferFunction::Rec709, "Rec709" },
> >>          };
> >>          static const std::map<YcbcrEncoding, std::string> encodingNames = {
> >> +               { YcbcrEncoding::Default, "Default" },
> >>                  { YcbcrEncoding::None, "None" },
> >>                  { YcbcrEncoding::Rec601, "Rec601" },
> >>                  { YcbcrEncoding::Rec709, "Rec709" },
> >>                  { YcbcrEncoding::Rec2020, "Rec2020" },
> >>          };
> >>          static const std::map<Range, std::string> rangeNames = {
> >> +               { Range::Default, "Default" },
> >>                  { Range::Full, "Full" },
> >>                  { Range::Limited, "Limited" },
> >>          };
> >> @@ -232,6 +249,16 @@ std::string ColorSpace::toString(const std::optional<ColorSpace> &colorSpace)
> >>    * \brief The pixel range used with by color space
> >>    */
> >>
> >> +/**
> >> + * \brief A constant representing a default color space
> >> + */
> >> +const ColorSpace ColorSpace::Default = {
> >> +       Primaries::Default,
> >> +       TransferFunction::Default,
> >> +       YcbcrEncoding::Default,
> >> +       Range::Default
> >> +};
> >> +
> >>   /**
> >>    * \brief A constant representing a raw color space (from a sensor)
> >>    */
> >> diff --git a/src/libcamera/v4l2_device.cpp b/src/libcamera/v4l2_device.cpp
> >> index 3fc8438f..ecfcf337 100644
> >> --- a/src/libcamera/v4l2_device.cpp
> >> +++ b/src/libcamera/v4l2_device.cpp
> >> @@ -770,6 +770,7 @@ static const std::map<uint32_t, ColorSpace::Range> v4l2ToRange = {
> >>   };
> >>
> >>   static const std::vector<std::pair<ColorSpace, v4l2_colorspace>> colorSpaceToV4l2 = {
> >> +       { ColorSpace::Default, V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Raw, V4L2_COLORSPACE_RAW },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Jpeg, V4L2_COLORSPACE_JPEG },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Srgb, V4L2_COLORSPACE_SRGB },
> >> @@ -779,6 +780,7 @@ static const std::vector<std::pair<ColorSpace, v4l2_colorspace>> colorSpaceToV4l
> >>   };
> >>
> >>   static const std::map<ColorSpace::Primaries, v4l2_colorspace> primariesToV4l2 = {
> >> +       { ColorSpace::Primaries::Default, V4L2_COLORSPACE_DEFAULT },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Primaries::Raw, V4L2_COLORSPACE_RAW },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Primaries::Smpte170m, V4L2_COLORSPACE_SMPTE170M },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Primaries::Rec709, V4L2_COLORSPACE_REC709 },
> >> @@ -786,18 +788,21 @@ static const std::map<ColorSpace::Primaries, v4l2_colorspace> primariesToV4l2 =
> >>   };
> >>
> >>   static const std::map<ColorSpace::TransferFunction, v4l2_xfer_func> transferFunctionToV4l2 = {
> >> +       { ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Default, V4L2_XFER_FUNC_DEFAULT },
> >>          { ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Linear, V4L2_XFER_FUNC_NONE },
> >>          { ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Srgb, V4L2_XFER_FUNC_SRGB },
> >>          { ColorSpace::TransferFunction::Rec709, V4L2_XFER_FUNC_709 },
> >>   };
> >>
> >>   static const std::map<ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding, v4l2_ycbcr_encoding> ycbcrEncodingToV4l2 = {
> >> +       { ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::Default, V4L2_YCBCR_ENC_DEFAULT },
> >>          { ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::Rec601, V4L2_YCBCR_ENC_601 },
> >>          { ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::Rec709, V4L2_YCBCR_ENC_709 },
> >>          { ColorSpace::YcbcrEncoding::Rec2020, V4L2_YCBCR_ENC_BT2020 },
> >>   };
> >>
> >>   static const std::map<ColorSpace::Range, v4l2_quantization> rangeToV4l2 = {
> >> +       { ColorSpace::Range::Default, V4L2_QUANTIZATION_DEFAULT },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Range::Full, V4L2_QUANTIZATION_FULL_RANGE },
> >>          { ColorSpace::Range::Limited, V4L2_QUANTIZATION_LIM_RANGE },
> >>   };
> >> --
> >> 2.31.1
> >>


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