[libcamera-devel] [PATCH 04/10] ipa: libcamera: add metadata for the ov8858 sensor

Kieran Bingham kieran.bingham at ideasonboard.com
Fri Oct 28 12:25:38 CEST 2022


Quoting Jacopo Mondi via libcamera-devel (2022-10-28 09:14:27)
> Hi Nicholas,
>   + Laurent question below
> 
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 05:21:37PM -0500, Nicholas Roth wrote:
> > > Nice this matches the CCS defined linear gain model.
> > > However the sensor allows to select two formats for the analogue gain
> > > the "real gain" format and "sensor gain" format. The selection is made by
> > > register 0x3503[2] and it would be nice to validate that the driver
> > > uses the format that you expect.
> >
> > I think I understand this better after reading the driver. In the register
> > value settings, I see:
> >  {0x3502, 0x40}, // exposure L
> > {0x3503, 0x80}, // gain delay ?, exposure delay 1 frame, real gain
> > {0x3505, 0x80}, // gain option
> >
> > The 0 low-nibbl indicates we're using "real gain."
> >
> > According to the datasheet:
> > 0x3503[2]=0, gain[7:0] is real gain format,
> > where low 4 bits are fraction bits, for
> > example, 0x10 is 1x gain, 0x28 is 2.5x gain
> >
> > This tells me that we need to divide reported gain from the driver by 16 to
> > get a properly-scaled double-value gain, which these gain constants do.
> >
> 
> Here you go!
> 
> Looking at the driver you're using I indeed see 3503[2]=0 in all modes
> 
> > > While V4L2 doesn't specify a unit for the ``EXPOSURE`` control, libcamera
> > > requires it to be expressed as a number of image lines. Camera sensor
> > drivers
> > > that do not comply with this requirement will need to be adapted or will
> > produce
> > > incorrect results.
> >
> > Looks like the driver multiples inputs x16 to convert to 1/16 line length
> > before writing to the register...
> >
> >  case V4L2_CID_EXPOSURE:
> > /* 4 least significant bits of expsoure are fractional part */
> > ret = ov8858_write_reg(ov8858->client,
> > OV8858_REG_EXPOSURE,
> > OV8858_REG_VALUE_24BIT,
> > ctrl->val << 4);
> >
> 
> Great, it means that towards userspace the exposure is indeed in units
> of 1 line.
> 
> >
> > Let me know if this looks good, and what needs to happen to merge this!
> 
> I think I had a comment on the pixel cell size.
> 
> Apart from that, let me check with Laurent about the policy when it
> comes to supporting sensor without an upstream driver.
> 
> I would not be super happy of adding support to "m00_f_ov8858" as if the
> driver will be upstreamed the entity name should at least change.

Yes, this is problematic.

Looking at the driver, it comes from: 
 https://github.com/megous/linux/blob/orange-pi-5.19/drivers/media/i2c/ov8858.c#L2936

This will likely have to be changed to get this merged upstream in the
kernel.


> As a middle term solution we can add support for "m00_f_ov8858" with a
> todo note to move to a more canonical "ov8858" name once the driver is
> upstreamed, or at least submitted upstream.

This is problematic too - there would be overlap - would we have to
duplicate the camera sensor properties? Or perhaps support registering a
camera sensor helper as mutliple names?


This is the 'why' upstreaming the driver is 'almost' a requirement.
Parts like that should be solved before integrating in libcamera
ideally. Perhaps we can workaround it this time as it's hopefully
manageable - but it means that we would then have libcamera 'supporting'
the pinephone in one version, but then losing it's support when we
suddenly change the names to match the upstream kernel until the
pinephone developers update their kernel.

All a bit messy ... :S

> 
> Thanks
>   j
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Nicholas
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:25 PM Nicholas Roth <nicholas at rothemail.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > please pardon me for being pedantic, but I would:
> > > > libcamera: Add support for ov8858 sensor
> > > >
> > > > instead of:
> > > > ipa: libcamera: add metadata for the ov8858 sensor
> > >
> > > Happy to make the change.
> > >
> > > > The sensor doesn't seem to be supported mainline :(...
> > > > Let's start from the first point: where does this driver lives ? What
> > > > kernel are you using ?
> > > I'm using Manjaro's kernel 5.19.8-1-MANJARO-ARM (from uname -r).
> > >
> > > It looks like my package manager is picking up the Manjaro kernel from
> > > https://gitlab.manjaro.org/manjaro-arm/packages/core/linux-pinephonepro/-/blob/5.19-megi/config,
> > > which sets "CONFIG_VIDEO_OV8858=m" in /config otherwise has no
> > > 8858-related changes. This ultimately pulls the driver from
> > > https://github.com/megous/linux/blob/orange-pi-5.19/drivers/media/i2c/ov8858.c
> > > .
> > >
> > > Looks like this has been in and out of Torvalds' peripheral view, e.g.:
> > > https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.1/06245.html
> > >
> > > If you think that it would be valuable to try and mainline this, I'd be
> > > interested to do so once I can get libcamera working on my hardware, though
> > > I'll likely need some guidance in the process, since I'll be learning a lot.
> > >
> > > > Nice this matches the CCS defined linear gain model.
> > > > However the sensor allows to select two formats for the analogue gain
> > > > the "real gain" format and "sensor gain" format. The selection is made by
> > > > register 0x3503[2] and it would be nice to validate that the driver
> > > > uses the format that you expect.
> > > Frankly, I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I'll try to find out from
> > > the driver above and verify.
> > >
> > > > Knowing what driver you're using is relevant, in example, as the
> > > > OV5688 sensor computes exposure in 1/16 of line length. This is not
> > > > what libcamera expects, and sensor drivers are expected to express the
> > > > V4L2_CID_EXPOSURE control in line units.
> > >
> > > > From Documentation/sensor_driver_requirements.rst
> > >
> > > > While V4L2 doesn't specify a unit for the ``EXPOSURE`` control, libcamera
> > > > requires it to be expressed as a number of image lines. Camera sensor
> > > drivers
> > > > that do not comply with this requirement will need to be adapted or will
> > > produce
> > > > incorrect results.
> > >
> > > Let me read the driver and get back to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:41 AM Jacopo Mondi <jacopo at jmondi.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Nicholas,
> > >>
> > >> please pardon me for being pedantic, but I would:
> > >> libcamera: Add support for ov8858 sensor
> > >>
> > >> instead of:
> > >> ipa: libcamera: add metadata for the ov8858 sensor
> > >>
> > >> "metadata" is an overloaded already term and usually refers to the
> > >> properties associated to a captured frame (the term comes from the
> > >> Android lingo, but we use it too).
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:55:09AM -0500, Nicholas Roth via
> > >> libcamera-devel wrote:
> > >> > From: Nicholas Roth <nicholas at rothemail.net>
> > >> >
> > >> > Currently, libcamera does not have information for the ov8858 sensor
> > >> > used in the PinePhone Pro, a phone designed to run Linux.
> > >> >
> > >> > This commit adds metadata, especially that sensor gain is reported and
> > >> > set in 1/16 discrete increments.
> > >> >
> > >> > For more information, see "5.8 manual exposure compensation/ manual
> > >> > gain compensation" in [0].
> > >> >
> > >> > [0] http://www.ahdsensor.com/uploadfile/202008/55322e75316871.pdf
> > >>
> > >> The sensor doesn't seem to be supported mainline :(
> > >> libcamera has a policy that requires supported components to be
> > >> upstream or at least on their way to upstream (ie posted to the
> > >> linux-media mailing list). The policy is there because different
> > >> downstream driver implementations might behave differently one from
> > >> the other, making it impossible for libcamera to support the part
> > >> fully. The policy is a strict requirement for ISPs, I guess we're a
> > >> bit more elastic when it comes to sensor. Howver knowing what driver
> > >> you are using, where it lives, and if there's any plan to upstream it
> > >> would be great.
> > >>
> > >> Let's start from the first point: where does this driver lives ? What
> > >> kernel are you using ?
> > >>
> > >> Knowing what driver you're using is relevant, in example, as the
> > >> OV5688 sensor computes exposure in 1/16 of line length. This is not
> > >> what libcamera expects, and sensor drivers are expected to express the
> > >> V4L2_CID_EXPOSURE control in line units.
> > >>
> > >> From Documentation/sensor_driver_requirements.rst
> > >>
> > >> While V4L2 doesn't specify a unit for the ``EXPOSURE`` control, libcamera
> > >> requires it to be expressed as a number of image lines. Camera sensor
> > >> drivers
> > >> that do not comply with this requirement will need to be adapted or will
> > >> produce
> > >> incorrect results.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Signed-off-by: Nicholas Roth <nicholas at rothemail.net>
> > >> > ---
> > >> >  src/ipa/libipa/camera_sensor_helper.cpp    | 11 +++++++++++
> > >> >  src/libcamera/camera_sensor_properties.cpp | 14 ++++++++++++++
> > >> >  2 files changed, 25 insertions(+)
> > >> >
> > >> > diff --git a/src/ipa/libipa/camera_sensor_helper.cpp
> > >> b/src/ipa/libipa/camera_sensor_helper.cpp
> > >> > index 35056bec..f2040cbd 100644
> > >> > --- a/src/ipa/libipa/camera_sensor_helper.cpp
> > >> > +++ b/src/ipa/libipa/camera_sensor_helper.cpp
> > >> > @@ -476,6 +476,17 @@ public:
> > >> >  };
> > >> >  REGISTER_CAMERA_SENSOR_HELPER("ov5693", CameraSensorHelperOv5693)
> > >> >
> > >> > +class CameraSensorHelperOv8858 : public CameraSensorHelper
> > >> > +{
> > >> > +public:
> > >> > +     CameraSensorHelperOv8858()
> > >> > +     {
> > >> > +             gainType_ = AnalogueGainLinear;
> > >> > +             gainConstants_.linear = { 1, 0, 0, 16 };
> > >> > +     }
> > >> > +};
> > >>
> > >> Nice this matches the CCS defined linear gain model.
> > >> However the sensor allows to select two formats for the analogue gain
> > >> the "real gain" format and "sensor gain" format. The selection is made by
> > >> register 0x3503[2] and it would be nice to validate that the driver
> > >> uses the format that you expect.
> > >>
> > >> > +REGISTER_CAMERA_SENSOR_HELPER("m00_f_ov8858", CameraSensorHelperOv8858)
> > >>
> > >> Ah! that's a weird name for the sensor entity :)
> > >>
> > >> > +
> > >> >  class CameraSensorHelperOv8865 : public CameraSensorHelper
> > >> >  {
> > >> >  public:
> > >> > diff --git a/src/libcamera/camera_sensor_properties.cpp
> > >> b/src/libcamera/camera_sensor_properties.cpp
> > >> > index e5f27f06..d0757c15 100644
> > >> > --- a/src/libcamera/camera_sensor_properties.cpp
> > >> > +++ b/src/libcamera/camera_sensor_properties.cpp
> > >> > @@ -146,6 +146,20 @@ const CameraSensorProperties
> > >> *CameraSensorProperties::get(const std::string &sen
> > >> >                                */
> > >> >                       },
> > >> >               } },
> > >> > +             { "m00_f_ov8858", {
> > >> > +                     .unitCellSize = { 1200, 1200 },
> > >>
> > >> I read 1.12 um x 1.12 um
> > >>
> > >> > +                     .testPatternModes = {
> > >> > +                             { controls::draft::TestPatternModeOff, 0
> > >> },
> > >> > +                             {
> > >> controls::draft::TestPatternModeColorBars, 1 },
> > >> > +                             /*
> > >> > +                              * No best corresponding test pattern for:
> > >> > +                              * 1: "Vertical Color Bar Type 1",
> > >> > +                              * 2: "Vertical Color Bar Type 2",
> > >> > +                              * 3: "Vertical Color Bar Type 3",
> > >> > +                              * 4: "Vertical Color Bar Type 4"
> > >> > +                              */
> > >> > +                     },
> > >> > +             } },
> > >> >               { "ov8865", {
> > >> >                       .unitCellSize = { 1400, 1400 },
> > >> >                       .testPatternModes = {
> > >> > --
> > >> > 2.34.1
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >


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