[libcamera-devel] Greetings :)

[Yaser Ahmed]

Awesome thank you for the thorough and quick response, I appreciate it.
Definitely will be checking out the mailing list, matrix bridge, and The
Lounge

Yaser


On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:10 AM Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas at ndufresne.ca>
wrote:

> Le jeudi 10 août 2023 à 13:10 +0300, Laurent Pinchart via libcamera-devel a
> écrit :
> > Hello Yaser,
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 10:03:03PM -0500, Yaser Ahmed via
> libcamera-devel wrote:
> > > Hi there libcamera devs. Is it possible to use another form of chat
> > > communication instead of IRC for it does not save chat history and is
> not the
> > > best in organization of questions/topics. Also there is no way of
> sharing code
> > > via text or code formatted text block. maybe I am wrong about IRC,
> since I am
> > > an IRC noob but here are some open source alternatives if you do
> consider
> > > moving to a more robust instant messenger.
> > >
> > >   • https://mattermost.com/pricing/ (self-hosted)
> > >   • https://zulip.com/plans/ (free 10,000 messages of search history
> or
> > >     self-hosted)
> > >   • https://www.rocket.chat/pricing (self-hosted)
> >
> > We picked IRC partly out of habbit, but also because it has a large
> > number of open-source clients that can accommodate a wide variety of use
> > cases. Mattermost, Zulip and Rocket Chat would be considered as a big
> > step backwards in usability for many people (including myself).
>
> My impression is that for the devs in this project, only Matrix could
> possibly
> qualify, its democratized and have terminal only clients, which from what I
> understood is what you personally want and will enforce. Also why gitlab
> keeps
> being disqualified in favour of patchwork, mailing list and other typically
> Linux project tools.
>
> I'm not judging, though I strongly prefer when things are said clearly. To
> me, I
> read this as maintainers personal preference. In regard of IRC, I like IRC,
> cause it can't really be used for anything else then the purpose of plain
> discussions. Its low security can even be seen as a feature, in the sense
> that
> folks on other plaforms sometimes forget that they are speaking in public
> space.
>
> >
> > IRC is indeed not best at organizing topics, but the #libcamera channel
> > has never been intended as such. It is mostly meant for casual
> > communication, or interactions that benefit from real time discussions.
> > For topics that require more in-depth and structured discussions
> > (including discussing code), the libcamera mailing list is a better
> > alternative, and it has a publicly available archive.
> >
> > This being said, we should probably consider an IRC logger. If you want
> > to maintain a presence on IRC, you could run a client on an
> > always-connected system (this is what I personally do, running irssi in
> > a screen session), or join the #libcamera channel through Matrix thanks
> > to the Matrix <-> IRC bridge.
>
> For those don't live for working on text terminal, there exists web base
> IRC
> client that will help with the lack of missing modern features. Matrix
> bridge is
> of course an option (have both web and native client), it has some
> features for
> images and paste were it will show a link in the IRC log. Though, I heard
> the
> bridges are not always stable.
>
> Other alternatives:
> - IRC Cloud, a pay server, but you don't have to host it.
> - The lounge (self hosted) https://thelounge.chat/
> - .. please includes yours
>
> I personally use The Lounge, I believe its much nicer then keeping a
> screen or
> pip proxy running on a server somewhere. It maintains your presence and
> the most
> important for me, it works on any of my computers with a web browser,
> including
> firefox on my phone.
>
> Nicolas
>
>
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